How do I set limits to raise happy responsible children?

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Dear Lazy

A reader asked me this question on Facebook.

Could you please blog about what kind of limits you place on your kids TV and computer game time? I’m loving your ideas about all these other areas of life.

See how you people encourage me to spread my weirdness?  It’s all your fault.

A Story First

A friend of mine recently called to talk to me about teaching children to work. She couldn’t believe what my children could do in the kitchen. “You mean they can really prepare an entire meal by themselves without cutting their fingers off and burning down the house?” Yes. They really can.

When I taught my children to cook I didn’t just take the knives out, turn on the stove and leave the room. We cooked together for years before they began doing it by themselves. When my daughter started using knives I held her hand in mine and we chopped together. When I felt like she could do it herself we chopped side by side so I could watch her every move. Now she if free to use knives in any way she wants because I know that she knows how to use them and I know that she has had enough experience to use them wisely.  Yes, she cuts herself sometimes (I just cut the tip of my thumb off the other day while chopping lettuce!) but her risks are minimized by her knowledge and experience.

Parents would be very wise to teach their children about media the same way.

Hold Their Hand In Yours

Don’t let entertainment and media be a free-for-all in your home. The more limits you set for your children the happier your family will be.  If you are very firm with your limits your children will learn them very quickly.  Children who know their limits don’t have to waste their time and energy testing them.  This leaves them free to play and learn exciting things with their time.

Movies

I’m embarrassed to say how many movies my older children watched on a daily basis when they were young.  When I stopped that and limited them to one movie a day I thought I was a good mom.  Several years ago we switched to about one movie a week and now we are at no movies except for very rare occasions.  There are just too many interesting things to be doing in life to be wasting time in front of a television.

For a while I had to get movies for everyone to watch when Muscles was babysitting and I hated it.  I wanted them to be able to stay home without entertainment but our new early bedtime has solved that problem for us.  I just get everyone ready for bed before I go anywhere and then they are either in bed or on their way there when I leave.

Another problem is movies with friends and family.  This is an area that is obviously difficult to manage so we have made it easy for our children.  There is too much variance in PG movies for them to be able to make wise choices so when they are away from home they can watch G rated movies only.

Computers

In our house we have a lap top in the living room that the children can use with permission if they have a specific reason to use it. They can reserve library books, print out sheet music, learn about a topic they’re interested in, etc. They have to use it at the coffee table with the screen facing a parent at all times. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out how to toggle quickly between screens when someone walks in the room. Ask me how I know. They are never allowed to use the computer away from home for any reason.  This obviously means they are not allowed to watch someone else use the computer either.

Ipods

My children would not even own Ipods except that they won them at the fair.  I wanted to save them for when they are older but Sailor talked me into letting them use them.  They only have music on them that I have given them and they rarely use them so they haven’t been a problem.

Gaming

I don’t think video games are necessary for anyone of any age.  “But what if my child wants to be a video game programmer when he grows up?”  Really?  How many video game programmers do you think there are compared to the number of men in their twenties that don’t have jobs and aren’t getting married because they sit in their parents basements feeding their gaming (and who knows what else) addiction?

And what if your child does become a video game programmer?  Is that the most noble profession you can think of for your child?  I think there are better ways of contributing to society.  I am obviously not going to choose my child’’s profession for him but as I train him I am envisioning the best he can be, not the least.

Boys in particular have a tendency to become addicted to gaming.  I think it is just in their active, adventure seeking natures.  My daughter could play video games for a few minutes every day and be perfectly content but that doesn’t mean she wouldn’t become addicted if I allowed her unlimited access.

I used to try to set time limits for my son but it didn’t matter what the limits were, he always pushed them and wanted more.  When I didn’t allow more he would sneak and lie to get more so I would take away game time completely.  Months would pass and I would start giving him privileges again, thinking he would  eventually learn to control himself.  He never did.  I finally had to apply my first commandment of parenting.

Don’t give your children more responsibility than they can handle.

My son simply could not control himself so I took away the temptation altogether.   Technology is a wonderful, powerful, dangerous tool  so if you are allowing your children to use it, it is your job to make sure they are using it wisely.  There are plenty of parents out there that know it is harming their children but they look the other way because they don’t want to make the hard choices.  Don’t be one of those parents.  It doesn’t matter how old your child is.  It is never too late to start setting boundaries.

The Rules in Our Home

  • Gaming – None. Period. End of story.
  • Computer use – Limited with direct supervision by their parent and no one else.
  • Cell phone – Limited
  • Movies – Limited to a few times a year at home.  G Rated movies away from home.
  • Television – None
  • Held games or electronic toys – None.  They are a waste of time and a distraction.
  • Ipod – Limited to the songs I give them.

I know that I am very extreme but that was not my goal.  My goal was to find limits that work for our family.  I started with leniency and set tighter and tighter limits till I found what worked but  I did it backwards.  What I should have done was treat technology like a very sharp knife and a hot stove.  If I had done that in the beginning then right now my older children would be enjoying more freedoms instead of less.  I am basically starting over with them and hoping the damage I caused can be repaired.  Luckily I know better now so I don’t have the same struggles with my four year old.

Raising Rebels

Are my kids going to rebel against all these rules when they are old enough to move away from home?  Maybe but here is the thing.  It is my job to teach correct principles with love and that’s what I’m trying to do.  My children still have their agency and I’m not pretending to be able to predict the future. I have made all these changes in our home because they have made us happier now.  That’s all I care about.


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16 Responses to “How do I set limits to raise happy responsible children?”

  1. I like what you have to say here. Oh, and link about organizing you posted earlier this evening. It does make sense to treat these things like sharp knives and hot stoves. I find most often that when I am on the computer my kids want to be. And when I’m off, my kids stay off. Even with removing the kids computer so that an adult was required to give up their spot for kids to use. You’ve definetly shared things in such a way I can see how I can change my own actions so that my children will be open to what I would like for them to do and have. My problem, is my laziness and that laziness leads to the computers and games, etc.

  2. When my oldest was six and she cried when we didn’t go straight home from school because she would miss her shows I realized we had a big problem. We began limits and eventually tv lost its power over us. She is know 24. Thanks to her, none of my kids have grown up with tv. They function just fine and the comforting thing is that although student housing comes with cable tv, they have no desire to watch. They get annoyed and frustrated with roommates that have to watch and even visiting inlaws and feeling like they have to join in leaves them restless and eager to move on. I have had my kids explain that they have a headache from watching several hours of movie. The brain must actually change and adjust to the screen time and when you are away from it then the occasional exposure brings up the symptoms more obviously. I guess it is kind of like avoiding junk food and then having some. A little is plenty and you are ready for something better.

  3. I had to say, I thought you were being extreme until I got to the end where you explain that you started lenient and tightened up, and that you wished you’d gone the other way. Oddly, I wonder if kids push their limits only when they know they can. My niece is a TV addict and hyper backtalking monster in her own home. But when I babysit, she knows there’s no cable in Auntie Bee’s house, and that our activities are going to be things like going to the museum, cooking a meal, and this game where I give her blocks, she builds stuff, and uses my camera to take a picture of her creation. That is a genius game and can last hours.

    Not a single backtalk problem do I have. But by now, I also feel I can trust her to send a quick text message for me if I ask her to.

    So there’s probably a lot of truth in what you say. I say if it seems to be working for your family, run with it!

  4. Well said! Thanks for clarifying that. You’re so not weird. Or maybe if you are, then we, your loyal readers, are too :)

    Glad to see comments back on! Will they stay? I’m too lazy to go to Facebook to write you.

  5. I admire you for doing hard things that will be good for your kids now and in the long run. I think that is why I love reading your blog so much. I wish I could be more like you. You are doing so many things that I have thought about doing for years, but haven’t had the courage to do (or am just lazy). My kids don’t watch any TV, but watch movies a few times a week. I think it’s too much. I have been wanting to get rid of the tv completely, in the past. I don’t even know why it is so hard to do. I honestly can not sit through a whole movie at home, even when I try. I don’t know how people sit and watch tv… daily. It’s a mystery.

    I think you are a great example and I wanted to thank you for sharing your family’s rules on entertainment in your home.

  6. Just one little disagreement:

    “I have made all these changes in our home because they have made us happier now. That’s all I care about.”

    I think you will care about the future.

  7. Lovely lovely post. Something I really need to strive for, my daughter is 3and 1/2 and she gets too much of TV time and IPhone time (IPhone is totally her Dad’s) and I will have some uphill task in getting him on board. I have been referring your blog to him for a while in the hope that he will see sense and can see that it is achievable.

    I do not homeschool, but sure have a lot to learn from you. My motto now on is to get my daughter’s tantrum on hold and make her a loving individual.

    BTW, I am the one who hasn’t responded to your twitter request. I haven’t been checking twitter much, but been following them on your blog and over the time I lost the charm of actually logging into twitter.

    With the Thanksgiving on the way, I really would like to Thank you from the bottom of the heart for this blog which gives an overview of parent struggles and how to deal with them.

    Lara says: Getting dads on board is usually the biggest complaint I hear from people. Just let him do his thing while you set limits for your daughter. If he is watching TV and you don’t want her to watch with him then take her in another room and show her what she can do instead. You are the mom. It’s your job to decide and her job to learn!

  8. I need to crack back down on the tv – limits have been pushed and lost. I’ve thought about getting rid of tv but hubby isn’t willing. And I guess I’m not either – I do like to watch an hour in the evenings after the kids go to bed. It’s my winding down time before bed. But I also can’t just sit there – I watch it while I’m knitting/crocheting/cross-stitching – it actually helps prevent any cricks in my neck from looking down at the project without a break. TV gets me to look up, moving my neck.

    My poor 2 y/o is about to get a dose of little to no tv. She’s not going to like you much – but I do!

    Lara says: Whenever my kids see me talking to a new mom they say, “I feel sorry for their kids.” Of course they are joking because they know all the “weird” things we do in our home make us happpy.

  9. This was really interesting to read from the perspective of a parent with older children. I have a 1.5 year old at home who does not watch t.v. Of course he is so young that it isn’t an issue at all at this point, but I am hoping to set some very firm standards now with the idea of “begin as you mean to continue.” I hope to avoid endless whining and wheedling to watch t.v.

  10. For those of you who have commented that you need to tighten the TV rules, I can’t urge you enough to just do it. I turned off the TV in my home this past June and we are so much better off because of it.

    The reason that I did it was that my two older kids (5 and 3) were going to be home for the summer with nothing to do. During our first week of vacation, I realized that they were watching HOURS of tv each day. Sure, it was cute PBS shows like Sid the Science Kid, Arthur, Word World, etc., but it was adding up to hours each day.

    I was also having two huge problems with my kids: one was that they were fighting with each other constantly and the other is that they weren’t listening to me. I realized that they tune me out when they watch the TV, and they were being trained (by me) to tune me out for half the day. I had to re-train them to look at me and listen to me when they hear me speaking to them. They also had to learn to interact and play with each other. It was a lot of work, but we spent a good part of the summer learning how to entertain ourselves by either playing together or playing alone. I spent a lot of time on the floor playing with them and helping them work through their conflicts or to just understand themselves enough to say that they feel like being alone for a while.

    I’ll also say that I am so grateful that my kids are not obsessed with Disney princesses or Star Wars or whatever it is that so many adults are feeding kids these days.

    Sorry for the rambling comment, but just want to let you know that I enjoy your blog and learn so much from you. Some of the things that you write about are exactly what I’m working on in my own home/life. It’s nice to know that I’m not alone in all of this. Thanks!

    Thank you for your endorsement and testimony! It seems hard but getting rid of TV is really not a difficult thing to do. After a couple weeks you will not miss it and you will wonder how you lived without all this extra free time. Having kids that don’t beg for me to buy them things is one of my favorite benefits too. If you asked them what they wanted for Christmas they would have to think long and hard.

  11. Ahhhh….a breath of fresh air is what you are. I am a “mean mom” and have actually been wrestling with the fact that my 8 year old dd is wanting a hand-held video game for Christmas. She reads levels ahead of her grade and does it any chance she gets, she loves to play imaginatively and loves doing free art and projects. WHY would I want to change that? We don’t have video game systems or allow computer time (they’ll have ages for that) and have minimal tv time…why was this even a consideration for me???

    Thanks for helping straighten’ up the old spine. Huge fan of you and all “weird” and “extreme” child-rearing and house-running ideas you share. Thankful for your blog and open honesty!

  12. Shannon J Says:

    I don’t remember how old your oldest is. Mine is 12. We’ve been struggling with computer limits in our house. The issue that I keep coming back to is very soon (at least it feels that way) he’ll be on his own so my job is to set limits for now and at the same time gradually hand over that control over to him. I don’t want him to have strict rules at home all the way until he moves away to college when he’ll not know how to limit himself. Any thoughts on that?

    Lara says: Mine will be twelve next month. The good news is that we still have time to teach them! Begging for and stealing computer time is a very selfish behavior but because of my new parenting skills my children are all learning selflessness and self control. I think going several years without computer games will help him find good things to be interested in and fill up his time with. Then he will be ready to set his own computer limits and follow them. Hopefully that will happen at 16 or 17 before he leaves the house. Trying to force it now before there has been a change of heart just won’t work.

    If he had learned these things at a natural age he would be enjoying computer privileges now. My bad!

  13. Lara, I adore you! Thanks for having the courage to share what works for your family.

  14. I pulled the plug on the tv in the past but in the last year (due to having a baby and needing some quiet time) I have slide back into letting my kids watch tv daily. I can not tell you how much fighting and backtalk and disrespect go on in my house. Thank you for the reminder about the tv. I will go pull the plug now.

  15. Seth Hales Says:

    Yes, Kids need limits but so do you. You are a complete control freak. I can’t believe that you even control what music they listen to. You don’t want kids, you want little robots. I feel sorry for your kids.

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